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  • I voted against the action in Canning Town on the tube and thought it was a terrible idea just like 90% of XR participants. Why? Because people will be completely unable to see past it and bleat on and on about it, not focusing on the issue at hand and the 3 aims of XR. The other actions have been very effective.

    The only reason I mentioned that event was because there are comments about how powerful people aren't listening to the message. My first hand experience is that they are. I don't see those people as any more important than people with less power. They just have more capacity to enact widespread change immediately.

    Im not going to repeat the clear link between non violent civil disobedience and systemic change. If you read back on this thread or on the XR website, more than enough people have dealt with that point. As I said, constantly repeating a point is utterly boring.

  • the clear link between non violent civil disobedience and systemic change

    The problem is that this 'non violent civil disobedience' is usually supposed to be a tactic used by the oppressed against their oppressor (and by the way, even there I'm personally not so convinced that the non-violent approach really is that effective, but... I don't want to be done for inciting violence). This just does not hold true here.

    Because people will be completely unable to see past it and bleat on and on about it, not focusing on the issue at hand and the 3 aims of XR.

    'See past it'? What do you mean 'see past it'? Isn't the entire point that people should not see past it, but have the whole action be very 'in their face' and not to be missed?

    Well yeah, no shit blocking Canning Town doesn't really serve to advertise the 3 aims of XR, especially as those weren't exactly prominently on display.

    Also, one thing you seem to be missing: whether you like it or not, the people 'bleating on and on about it' are the people you are trying to convince to get on your side and ultimately vote the right way / put pressure on politics in a way that will actually force change.

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