Gravel / Gravé / Gnarmac / Groad / ATB

If not, it's new hub/wheel time.

Thanks man, I shall try that.

Also loving your name!

Noice - what top tube bag is that?

Silca Speed Capsule...annoyingly hard to find bolt on bentobox packs that aren't triathlon / aero based, it does the job though, bit of a squeeze to get a mobile in there

the most ugly bike I've ever seen? £3490. crap offroad. what a joke

It’s not the ugliest bike ever! Ridden one then?

It looks crashed

How do you know its crap off road?

agreed, it's not pretty, but there are many uglier bikes than this!

mudguard seems a bit of a silly addition - is the short headtube to allow for a suspension fork?

"If it looks alright, it'll fly alright"

silly addition

do you like horse shit pounding you in the face? ;)

Mudguard is rated to support up to 2kg of load, so good for bulky yet light stuff like a sleeping bag and mat.

Mondraker MTBs with their "shitting dog" toptubes are worse.

Yeah I’m kinda wondering if Dom was on crack with that one.

@bigshape it will take a 100mm travel fork which at least in its favour will be cheap because nobody wants one.

Mudguard allow you to strap a dry bag on it, the fork also allow a small rack for bigger dry bag.

And yes suspension corrected.

Corrected is not the word I would use.

That funny little mudguard and the whole bike looks better with some gear on and it seems to do what it's meant to pretty well.

How do you know its crap off road?

Because internet

Ah of course, ride feedback by numbers

It is fugly though

There is no denying that

Thing is, you could race the Divide on a whole load of different bikes and people do. A bike for riding US forestry and county roads and some basic byway type terrain at a good pace is easy to get mostly right. A bike that also handles tech stuff well in a way that makes it fun and involving like a good (even rigid) MTB should be, not so easy.

Good luck finding two people who agree on what 'tech stuff' is though ;-)

My own opinion of tech would probably alter, depending on what bike I had to use

No matter the purpose of a bike, there is no excuse for ugly ass design!

That thing does look like very post collision. With bags not so much obviously.

Easy or not, I've understood things like TD are what it's designed for, rather than the tech stuff? A lot like Cutthroat. But yeah not like it's the one bike to rule them all, to replace a mountainbike on the trails.