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  • I'm not laying the blame at any one group's feet.

    I'm not saying that "We might do something about it in the 20-30 years" is a valid or useful response either.

    I suppose my point is that "Pull the plug on your multi billion dollar company and cease to exist" is probably the least constructive position of all, given the factors that compel companies to prioritise profits over environmental responsibility haven't changed in living memory. Especially as a lot of the worst offending companies are ploughing huge amounts of money and time into adapting and want to work with environmental groups to do it.

    Sure, it's probably too much too late.

  • Typical centerist dad response. /S

    Fwiw I agree with a lot of what you've said. And some of H2o's points.

    What I really like about XR are their 3pts. And I don't think @h2o you should underestimate the importance of targets. All the EU nation's subsidies and ramp up in renewable energy production over the lAst 10yrs have coincided with the setting of clear targets.

    However, as I think many posts in this thread demonstrate, the movement is under constant pulls in different political directions. This then feeds into a culture-war narrative. I see this with my colleagues who are opposed to XR on a political ideological level and on a policy level... even though we work in renewables.

  • Oh, I’m happy with targets. I think I probably share some views with your colleagues - we want to get to the same place but disagree with XR.

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