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  • It actually transpired he wasn't really a rebel at all. We were based in a building and we got "infiltrated"
    This was the first clue and we got busted soon after he left. His lack of awareness should have rung alarm bells.
    They just confiscated tons of stuff we were planning to use, on the grounds it was likely to be used to cause a public nuisance.
    It's a bit of a pain as the cops will just bin it, straight to landfill probably. I can't see them sorting it for recycling.

  • What has surprised me is how little they know. One bright young man was washing his porridge bowl under a running hot tap, he was soon put straight.

    ...This was the first clue and we got busted soon after he left. His lack of awareness should have rung alarm bells.

    Could you elaborate on this?

    I think protest is needed and welcome – climate change is clearly a crisis. Side note: If we collectively renamed the phrase to ‘Climate Collapse’ it might do something to highlight the urgency of the matter.

    But surely how I clean my porridge bowl every morning has absolutely zero impact on climate change? If twenty firms are behind a third of all carbon emissions and pro fossil fuel think tanks, lobbyists, politicians and in turn governments continue to block real measures of change and a switch to renewables, then unless I’m washing my bowl in crude oil, well, does it matter?

    Isn’t essentially what’s needed a total restructuring of capitalism? I often end up thinking that the very people at the top who could create meaningful change are the ones who have successfully made a lot of people at the bottom believe that using a cardboard straw is all they need do.

    I’m genuinely not trolling here or being intentionally obtuse and I’m happy to be educated but I’d like to receive more than the often said “well if everyone thought like that...” response. Because isn’t the point that extinction rebellion highlights so well, that it doesn’t matter if we all scrubbed our porridge bowls clean with brute force alone, when it’s forecast that oil firms will produce an additional 7m barrels per day over the next decade, it’s those at the top who need to be forced to change.

  • twenty firms are behind a third of all carbon emissions

    I wish people would stop saying this. The people responsible for the carbon emissions are the end users, who are really Western consumers and governments (e.g. the US department of defence).

  • it’s forecast that oil firms will produce an additional 7m barrels per day over the next decade, it’s those at the top who need to be forced to change.

    Again, they don’t produce all those barrels just for the sake of it - they produce it because there is demand for oil, due to transportation, heating, plastics and so on.

    Surely we need to solve this on the demand side; just turning off the supply seems a reckless way to transition the economy.

  • If you are deep within a small group of environmental activists who are living on porridge and lentils and wearing hemp clothing and you wash your breakfast bowl under a running tap instead of washing all the utensils in a bowl at the same time (when there’s a pile that needs washing) and all that hot water is running down the plug you arouse suspicion to put it mildly

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