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  • Great points. At that price it really goes close to the riese and muller and you get a motor! Maybe i should have waited till i had the extra cash and then ordered the c2w voucher but i am stupid and impatient.

    Buillitt pricing is kinda swaying me towards the r&m but in that case i will have to wait 2 months to use the voucher, should be ok i guess.

    A fully loaded r&m is £4.5k, child seat, cover and all.

  • You could get creative with straps, shuttering plywood and a tarp to achieve the same functionality. But that would look like a mess and nobody wants that right?

    We had a go on a Packster 60 with the canopy couple of months ago that belongs to friends (while they drove our Bullit). Overall we found that the RM was a lot heavier and slower/sluggish handling over the Bullit even with the motor. They found our Bullit surprisingly nimble to pick up speed without engine but "more sporty and aggressive". Which in my opinion translates into frame geo.

    edit: our Bullit with HCB, child seat, canopy, damper, Alfine 8, Gates, Deore XT m8020 brakes, Thomson finishing, guards, XT dynamo, B&M IQ-XS front and secula rear was €4.6k.

  • Very handy to know! I can imagine r&m being heavy as it has motor battery plus a sus fork (?!)

    I have had a go on a buillitt will get a test ride on r&m there is a shop right by where i work.

    Packster 60 is a monster, 40 looks quite #tukt

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