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I mean actual gravel. The stuff that started the gravel grinding scene in the USA. The strade bianche of Tuscany. The pistes DFCI and some Voies Vertes in France. Swedish sportgrus.
I understand there's little if any of that stuff in the UK, but if trail riding or being knee deep in mud on a bridleway is your thing, maybe you'd be better off with a MTB anyway or one of those so-called adventure bikes.
For all the stuff I have mentioned that Standert will be much better suited, and is much more of a gravel bike than a lot of the 2.00" tyre'd bikes featured on the thread.
38mm tyres not big enough for gravel anymore? Seriously?