EU referendum, brexit and the aftermath

sorry posted twice

Glascow was, after all, known as the 2nd city of the empire.

And I believe my point was that even at the point of inception, in a union that was unwanted and forced upon the vast majority of common people and landowners in Scotland by an elite that were acting in their own financial interest or coerced the same way BoJo and his ilk are acting with Brexit now, there were major political, cultural and philosophical differences between the two nations so your 'joint enterprise' (where you actually tried to attribute the development of Empire to James IV even though it began over a century beforehand) was not equal then or after, regardless of whether the British monarch acting as a figurehead of parliament at Westminster was originally the Scottish king. Alles klar?

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/boris-johnsons-choice-left-behind-16891216

There was a tweet about this around 6 days ago from a MEN journo but I can't find it (been trying to catch up on thread a bit)

Boris claiming that he will reject any Brexit delay offer from the EU:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49709430

That would be a crime, would it not, following the
dramatic passage of the Benn act, ten days ago?

https://twitter.com/i/status/1173344940044226561

A crime is a specific act which has been prescribed as an offence. That’s not the same as acting unlawfully ie contrary to the law.

Spectacular loophole, asks for delay because law says he must, get offered delay because we might have a GE/ref and might change our minds, say thanks but no thanks and leave.

Or gets people to vote for the WA, then doesn't do the work to actually get it implemented, and then UK leaves with no-deal anyway.

Depressing state of affairs.

A crime is a specific act which has been prescribed as an offence. That’s not the same as acting unlawfully ie contrary to the law.

Of course you are correct. I should have said: will be contravening the law, leaving himself open to a court ruling that he must comply, which if he ignores will leave him open to being in contempt of court which is a crime.

contempt of court which is a crime

As opposed to contempt of Parliament, which we have already discovered is sweet FA.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49709430

BoBo "cautiously optimistic" EU still thinks new plans lack detail (which of course they do, if you can't do it in 3 years...)

Keeping NI in the agricultural EU standards is also part of the backstop, is this going towards a NI only backstop with GB excluded as he can dump the DUP now?

In that case enjoy the huge lorry queues at Dover, but hey-ho...who needs experts to make predictions.

he can dump the DUP now

He's going to lose all his seats in Scotland (about 15?), and ten DUPs. They must be very confident about picking up Labour seats in bulk after all this.

well he won't have to worry about the Brexit party for a bit at least!

Shouldn't be too hard when you're up against one of the most unpopular opposition leaders ever.

What's going to be really interesting is how the Indies and Defectors do in their current seats.

Well, since he has no majority perhaps a cross party effort will sideline the DUP, finally?

The DUP will lose some seats, 3 are at risk I'd say they lose at least 1
Scotland yep he can lose another 10

So they need another 11 to make up for that and then even more to get a majority. I don't see it either no, but they are targeting some areas in the North with throwing cash/magic money trees already.

Who's the chicken?

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I dunno... but I don't know the relevance of a photo of Xavier Bettel.

Boris should have been on the left podium for the press conference.

But he called it off just before, claiming it may be too noisy from the nearby crowd.

Subsequent interview with a single reporter was completely pointless waffle

Subsequent interview with a single reporter was completely pointless waffle

Quite deflated Boris in that interview. I don't think he was up to spouting that BS in front of a critical audience.

too noisy?

Wow, were all monitor speakers, all microphones and in-ear speakers all broken at the same time?

The thing is, those protestors were mostly British citizens living abroad. What does it say about a Prime Minister if he can't face his own citizens in a safe controlled environment because they are too noisy?

Plenty of right wing hacks trying to paint this as a EU hatchet job online. FFS.

My favourite episode of The Incredible Hulk is the one where a small crowd of people shouted too loudly and he ran away.

*stealed from a mate

The Incredible Sulk.

not good enough for the maymays thread.