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  • Interesting looking on here and seeing that the Kyrptonite Evolution Mini D lock that I've used for years and years isn't even on the list on the first page. Is it now considered poor quality and easily breakable nowadays?

    Also was considering the https://ottodesignworks.com/shop/ottolock-hexband as a normal secondary lock/ primary lock for long rides and touring as it's super light, any forum view on this?

  • Interesting looking on here and seeing that the Kyrptonite Evolution Mini D lock that I've used for years and years isn't even on the list on the first page. Is it now considered poor quality and easily breakable nowadays?

    No, this is the primary locks thread, i.e. the ones that can't realistically be cut or broken that you'd trust your expensive bike to be locked up with overnight and not get broken, but are a bit impractical to carry around. That's generally the ones with 16mm+ clasps and monster-size chains. The Kryptonite Evo is in the Secondary Locks thread as these are a bit more practical to carry, but can be cut with big enough hand tools (pretty serious hand tools would be needed to get through a Kyptonite Evo). We shouldn't really be talking about Hiploks in this thread, @GA2G 's piss would be boiling if he was around to see it.

  • Huh, well ive used a Kryptonite Evo mini for 15/20 years as a primary lock with noone cutting it but fair enough.

    Will move the 'hiplock' question to the other thread

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