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Oh yeah,"bantz" is a dickhead term anyway, but maybe having never felt the need to go any further than a bit of actual friendly English/Scottish/Irish/Welsh/Northern/Southern ribbing between friends about accent quirks or gravy, anything like that has always seemed more of a "we're all the same but different"British piss taking. I don't tend to use lazy words like Jock anyway, more because they just don't seem part of a modern nongammon lexicon than I was purposely avoiding them for being offensive though. Maybe Brits who feel it's OK to say, feel close enough as a unified nation to throw the language around like it's their own, when to those on the receiving end it's not the same and it's more like a white guy singing all the NWA lyrics out loud in mixed company rather than alone in their car. It's probably just me sitting on top of the pile of privilege and not seeing the plight of the other Union countries when looking past them to the bottom. Or I'm so woke I forget I was ever asleep. Or I'm a little pished.
Anyway, is the country still fucked? When can I complain about frogs and krauts?
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It’s all relative pal. My missus is from Glasgow, aka The Filth, whereas I am half teuchter, half fur-coats-nae-knickers. We’re just back from a small town in France which was full of jeans and sheux types with bulging portfolios. Vive la différence hein?
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Evidently Bobbo thinks it's just us getting het up about nothing, I disagree and could share anecdotes of working in London and folk asking me why I was there or where I'd learned English as if I'd come off the boat from Russia or something.
People excuse it as friendly banter but I haven't ever found that to be the case-all my pals in first year at Uni were English and this is long enough ago that Scotland actually beat them in a football game... It went from fun to rabid cursing and exclamations of "fucking dirty Scots cunts", "sheepshagging bastards" etc in a heartbeat and it showed a few things up about their actual attitudes. Other folk also use England as an interchangeable term for the UK, again, says a lot... Those guys were still pals but not really the same as before and I definitely didn't watch the football with them as it was the same with every team that was playing against England... Endless xenophobia and derogatory insults. It explains a lot about why when I go abroad and people ask where you're from they often say "oh I'm glad you're not English", it's an attitude that has been widely recognised over time and hasn't won many friends even pre Brexit.
I'm just a bit saddened to see the same shit go on here and like I said, don't believe it would be tolerated if it was directed at another group of folk.
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I think the issue here is not “bantz” or anything like wilful ignorance; nor is it us Scotch getting oor breeks in a twist aboot a daft wee slip o’ the tongue. It is, as many have pointed out, that to use lazy, stereotypical epithets implies superiority over the group/race being pilloried. Witness what’s going on with Brexit or with Scotland feeling largely powerless to the government eagerly skullfucking the democratic process. Yes, Scotland has more than its fair share of arseholes; I have English pals living in the sticks who feel marginalised purely for being English. I’ve seen “WHITE SETTLERS OUT” painted on Highland walls; my dad was routinely called “Jock” in the pub where he worked after he’d finished his shift as a mental health nurse. I was born in Scotland to Scottish parents but spent years 2-12 growing up in Gloucester (just across the park from Fred West, trivia/murder fans) but moved back up North, so I’ve seen both sides of it. I studied at a university where 60% of my class were Oxbridge regects whose daddies had bought them a 3 bed in the New Town and who called me “Jock” for actually being from Edinburgh. TL:DR version: interested to see if @Ramsaye would be comfortable slinging around “Chinky,” “Wop,” “Yid,” “Spic” etc etc from his “It’s Just a Word, Mate” lexicon.