• TBF if the Scottish people in here don't like being called something, people probably shouldn't call them that, and if someone (@someone) called them something without realising it was quite as bad as they thought it was, they should probably say "whoops, it wasn't such a problem in my day, but the times they are a'changing, and I will try to change with them, my bad."

  • I think the issue here is not “bantz” or anything like wilful ignorance; nor is it us Scotch getting oor breeks in a twist aboot a daft wee slip o’ the tongue. It is, as many have pointed out, that to use lazy, stereotypical epithets implies superiority over the group/race being pilloried. Witness what’s going on with Brexit or with Scotland feeling largely powerless to the government eagerly skullfucking the democratic process. Yes, Scotland has more than its fair share of arseholes; I have English pals living in the sticks who feel marginalised purely for being English. I’ve seen “WHITE SETTLERS OUT” painted on Highland walls; my dad was routinely called “Jock” in the pub where he worked after he’d finished his shift as a mental health nurse. I was born in Scotland to Scottish parents but spent years 2-12 growing up in Gloucester (just across the park from Fred West, trivia/murder fans) but moved back up North, so I’ve seen both sides of it. I studied at a university where 60% of my class were Oxbridge regects whose daddies had bought them a 3 bed in the New Town and who called me “Jock” for actually being from Edinburgh. TL:DR version: interested to see if @Ramsaye would be comfortable slinging around “Chinky,” “Wop,” “Yid,” “Spic” etc etc from his “It’s Just a Word, Mate” lexicon.

  • Oh yeah,"bantz" is a dickhead term anyway, but maybe having never felt the need to go any further than a bit of actual friendly English/Scottish/Irish/Welsh/Northern/Southern ribbing between friends about accent quirks or gravy, anything like that has always seemed more of a "we're all the same but different"British piss taking. I don't tend to use lazy words like Jock anyway, more because they just don't seem part of a modern nongammon lexicon than I was purposely avoiding them for being offensive though. Maybe Brits who feel it's OK to say, feel close enough as a unified nation to throw the language around like it's their own, when to those on the receiving end it's not the same and it's more like a white guy singing all the NWA lyrics out loud in mixed company rather than alone in their car. It's probably just me sitting on top of the pile of privilege and not seeing the plight of the other Union countries when looking past them to the bottom. Or I'm so woke I forget I was ever asleep. Or I'm a little pished.
    Anyway, is the country still fucked? When can I complain about frogs and krauts?

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