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aye is that true for ALL of them tho? Have you owned any of them out of curiosity?
I own a 5010 which to be fair the seat angle is slack but for what I use it for its never a huge issue. I own a nomad which I rarely climb much on. I've rode the older hightower extensively and it still climbs perfectly well.
I think geometry trends just help get folk forking out money on new frames when they really dont need them.
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They suffer from overly slack seat angles at high saddle heights though