• Needless to say, I agree with the majority here that Johnson's decision to prorogue is wrong and undemocratic, and the fact is that he has quite blatantly lied about his motivations for calling for a new session of Parliament.

    That said, I also can't help but feel that Parliament has brought this upon itself. It's not enough for Parliament to say what it doesn't want. It has to offer an alternative that it will, collectively, support and push for. And after 3 years of bickering, and having given itself a number of opportunities to do so, it not only hasn't done so but seems no sign of having reached a conscensus about what should actually be done.

    Parliament had the chance to tell the government what it wanted. It blew that chance. Why do we think it stands a better chance of doing so now? Kicking the can down the route for ever and a day is not a viable option, and never has been.

  • I still blame the govt for that.

    The red lines that were introduced meant that no consensus option was available. Parliament is unable to solve an impossible conundrum, the govt has to give some space to move or be reasonable and it did not.

  • May offered them the exact same deal three times and refused any and all meaningful alterations to it because red lines. In that circumstance, what can parliament do apart from repeat the same answer?

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