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  • Any reason not to go for a OnGuard Brute d-lock? Seems the same rating as a kryptonite new york but a third the price.

  • It might have the same rating but it's not as secure, the shackle is thinner (there's a very clear difference in weight if you pick them both up).

    It's a perfectly decent lock though, if a little agricultural feeling. I'd say it's more secure than the Hiplok D.

  • Just looked, you are right it's 16.8mm vs 18mm. My understanding is anything over 16mm is too big for hand croppers and electric grinder will eat both, so think the Brute will be fine as can get two for the same money, seems like keeping the mechanism lubed is the biggest issue with the OnGuard locks but had the same problem with an old kryptonite

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