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• #82202
this picture is spreading on the internet as a ”Denver Antifa” update in order to make the movement look silly
Like it needs any help with that
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• #82203
bOtH SidEs!
fuck off.
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• #82204
fuck off
And people complain that political discourse has coarsened in recent times.
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• #82205
Again. Fuck right off.
Nobody is under any obligation to engage in polite discourse with anyone that suggests anti fascism is some sort of fucking option.
Have a chat with yourself.
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• #82206
Again. Who the fuck are you, yeah?
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• #82207
Prick fight!
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• #82208
Nobody is under any obligation to engage in polite discourse with anyone that suggests anti fascism is some sort of fucking option
Thanks for letting me know how you feel, but if I ever meet anybody who thinks there's no need to oppose fascism I'll probably still try to talk them around to the idea that it's worth doing.
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• #82209
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• #82210
less posturing, more memes
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• #82211
I would love to have been on your cruise ship to witness it if you'd encountered a fellow passenger that was a fascist.
It would be the genesis of one of those classic weird stories in the Metro about mass riots in holiday transportation except instead of drunken argument over fancy dress wearing an aging fixed gear enthusiast took exception to the political mores of another cruiser so went Popeye and plopped them overboard.
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• #82212
Sorry if I'm misunderstanding you but are you suggesting that people who don't think that fascism needs opposing (normally fascists) just need a good stern talking to?
I'm very much of the opinion that people like that need a decent slapping.
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• #82214
If anything history in Germany, Italy, Spain shows that the extreme right is a minority, the extreme left is a minority, and that both commit atrocities and violence in the name of defeating the other whilst staging and falsifying propaganda to win support for their respective causes from the ever docile and centrists. Most Nazis were not ideologues. Most 'Fascists' were not ideologues. They were opportunists, allowed themselves to be led by popular opinion, or just scared of voicing opposition.
It seems evident to me that the right wing is always better funded and more prepared to plumb the depths of human behaviour and less contained by moral limits simply because of the type of people it attracts who see like Trump, Mogg or Hunt, an opportunity for personal gain.
So what I'm saying is that the left really needs to up it's Dank Meme game or we're all fucked.
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• #82215
I'm very much of the opinion that people like that need a decent slapping. I can't think of too many historical examples of a chat being an effective countermeasure to fascist beliefs.
I'm very much of the opinion that resorting to violence is counterproductive if you're trying to convert opponents to your political viewpoint.
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• #82217
It seems evident to me that the right wing is... more prepared to plumb the depths of human behaviour and less contained by moral limits
It seems evident to me that you're allowing your personal political sympathies to blind you to the historical facts of Communist genocides.
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• #82218
I can't think of too many historical examples of assault being an effective countermeasure to fascist beliefs.
read that back to yourself. out loud if necessary.
also: facism / white supremacy isn't a "political viewpoint", it's a threat aimed at people guilty of the crime of not being white.
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• #82219
This docile centrist needs moar memes
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• #82220
You're probably right but I was thinking more of the actions of seizing power rather than what comes after
Communists took power in Russia having had the state send millions to be butchered against Germany and still denied the workers basic rights. The centrists/middle classes also found it harder to defend the actions of the Tsar and worried that they'd be on the losing side, tipping the balance out of expedience or self preservation.
What happened when they were in power later of course, was despicable.
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• #82221
It seems evident to me that you guys don't realize that the debate thread is over there
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• #82222
Anyway, as a topical interlude, a selection of memes from Socialist Meme Caucus.
They're quite poor.
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• #82223
They're quite poor.
Just more evidence of systemic inequality
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• #82224
Maybe I'm just a closet fascist, or worse, a reactionary.
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• #82225
Sort-of political discourse that is cracking you up at the moment
Yeh that’s a year old and also fake.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/98nulz/denver_antifa_aka_the_left_youth_of_finland_fake/
"A small lesson about the internet. A couple of years ago the Left Youth group of Eastern Finland decided to get a picture together. The group has summer camps and study groups, organizes gigs, etc..
But currently this picture is spreading on the internet as a ”Denver Antifa” update in order to make the movement look silly. In other words it's from troll account, that managed to find the picture from the abyss of the internet. Just incomprehensible and in a way amusing, but people get fooled by this stuff."