• If anything history in Germany, Italy, Spain shows that the extreme right is a minority, the extreme left is a minority, and that both commit atrocities and violence in the name of defeating the other whilst staging and falsifying propaganda to win support for their respective causes from the ever docile and centrists. Most Nazis were not ideologues. Most 'Fascists' were not ideologues. They were opportunists, allowed themselves to be led by popular opinion, or just scared of voicing opposition.

    It seems evident to me that the right wing is always better funded and more prepared to plumb the depths of human behaviour and less contained by moral limits simply because of the type of people it attracts who see like Trump, Mogg or Hunt, an opportunity for personal gain.

    So what I'm saying is that the left really needs to up it's Dank Meme game or we're all fucked.

  • It seems evident to me that the right wing is... more prepared to plumb the depths of human behaviour and less contained by moral limits

    It seems evident to me that you're allowing your personal political sympathies to blind you to the historical facts of Communist genocides.

  • You're probably right but I was thinking more of the actions of seizing power rather than what comes after

    Communists took power in Russia having had the state send millions to be butchered against Germany and still denied the workers basic rights. The centrists/middle classes also found it harder to defend the actions of the Tsar and worried that they'd be on the losing side, tipping the balance out of expedience or self preservation.

    What happened when they were in power later of course, was despicable.

  • It seems evident to me that you guys don't realize that the debate thread is over there

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