• Basically, you're entitled to your opinion, obviously, but you can't say 'Lib Dems are being unreasonable by saying Corbyn can't lead the GNU' without saying 'Corbyn is being equally unreasonable by insisting he does'. Both are conditions. Both make no deal more likely. Both have no place in a pragmatic solution.

    Except one party is the official opposition, with a larger share of support from voters, and the norm choice when it comes to constitionally forming a new government.

    In any case, Swinson softened her position almost immediately when it became clear it was a mistake. The ball is really in the rebel Tories hands at this point. But, as mentioned above, it doesn't matter yet anyway.

  • don't they just need to abstain?

  • I didn't say anything near approaching that. But if I had an MP who was opposed to no deal and yet refused to do the very obvious and constitionally legitimate thing which could stop it because they disliked the person who would stop it, I'd be pretty pissed. Tory, libdem, or labor.

    There's a path of least resistance here. It would be excellent if people would just follow it.

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