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  • Grand - I think the Mike's are effectively the 31.8mm clamp version of the Mary, probably won;t make much difference if I go for them or the Geoff - the bar offer appears to have been extended, was supposed to end last night - that'll give me time to pick an assortment of lurid £3 socks to stock up on too...

  • They make Marys in 31.8mm. Mike is different in that its almost all backsweep. Marys sweep forward then back to allow you to run the same length stem as you would with a flat bar (hand position being roughly the same, albeit a different angle - In other words the reach should be about the same). To replicate a flat bar position with a Mike you'd need a longer stem. I'd imagine they're lighter too.

  • Yeah you're right - had another look & noticed that - ended up ordering the Geoff as they were still cheap (and the obligatory half dozen inner tubes & some wild socks) wider = betterer right? Plus there'll be bells / lights etc. etc hanging off it so more space for bar furniture might be handy and the backswept bits aren't too useful for lights

    Now I need a bar bag to fill with enough snacks to appease an angry 2 year old who thinks a nice cycle through the countryside is a load of horse-shit (She can get into the rucksack & demolish all the good stuff before I even notice ...)

  • The Mike appears to be a copy of the Fairdale Archer v2 which, if whatbars.com is to be believed, are a pretty close match for the Jones loop in terms of reach and sweep. They do have a bit more rise though. I've got a pair on my daily dadbike and I like them a lot, the create a very relaxed, high, almost Dutch-bike setup.

    The Archers do bend forward as far as the Mary's, which is useful for mounting a light out front, but they have more sweep and a longer, so their reach isn't as long.

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