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@pascalo
Cheers. I decided I deffo don't want a creaky BB, so I ordered a token ninja one that has counter thread cups, also shipping to Oz was free and it ended up not THAT much more expensive.
Plan is to pull all my ultegra parts off my old Enigma Steel Bike and make a bike for flying up hills. Frame was 60% off, so just under 800gbp for the slightly heavier "advanced" fibre frame.