• @MisterMikkel and mine at you (or anyone else for that matter). I'll spare you long rant about Surly, but as an ex-owner myself I certainly understand @pedrito.

    And my grävel beik weighs 16 kg, has 26" wheels and cable disc brakes.

    Mate you're gonna love the 2020 Decathlon Riverside adventure bike (200 magazine wrote a long and very informative article on it, but it's not online unfortunately).

  • This one?
    Canti studs look a bit naff and non-compact bars are not for me.
    Having never ridden a bike competetively I'm not that concerned with weight.

    I can't totally understand buyer's remorse and why not all people will want a Surly.
    I was just trying to make the point that there's a reason they cost more money.

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