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  • Hmmmm
    Subbed!

  • oi!

    Fair though

  • Great build tbh, keep up the good work. Just PM me if you need company.

  • Roof joists are done. Started with getting OSB sheets up and fastening down yesterday evening. The magnitude of how many nails need to get hammered in is slowly dawning on me, I reckon at least 1000. My neighbours are going to hate my guts after the weekend.

    Anyone used a nail gun before? Tempted to hire one for the day but I've never used one before and not sure exactly what I need.


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  • Modern cordless stuff is completely self contained isn’t it? Just need the gun w/ battery and the appropriate nails.

  • I've a Dewalt nail gun but would still use screws with my impact driver - with decent screws it shouldn't take to long...

  • are the cross pieces offset to allow you to drill from both sides? Or is there another reason?

  • Yeah I'm doing half and half. Problem with screws is that they are brittle and can snap under shear load fairly easily. A few of the screws I've had to remove have snapped. They are good quality screws, just the nature of high strength steel.

  • Exactly that, to leave space for the impact driver.

    I think I've technically done this wrong for the roof actually, I should have lined them up with the roof window. Oh well. The offset is small though so I'm not too bothered

  • 👍

    Remember it's only a shed.

    ;)

  • I've used Spax screws a lot and never broken one yet, however the stainless steel ones I used on the facia boards snapped very easily - ended up screwing in a steel screw first, removing it and then using the s/s one.
    I'd happily lend you my nail gun but I'm up in the North

  • Tempted to hire one for the day

    Do it.

    You'll save so much time, blisters, and headaches.

    Rent a gas & battery combo.

    Or you could buy a super tarty Ti framing hammer...

  • Ta. I havent tried spax tbf, only goldscrew and forgefast. I never broke one driving them in but a few have broken after they've been in place for a few weeks and I had to remove for whatever reason. It might be a case of they would have lasted forever if left alone and unscrewing made them break, but it made me nervous enough to switch to 50 50 nails and screws. Just trying to insure that the sheathing on the walls doesn't some day decide to just fall off because all the screws have systimatically decided to snap.

    Maybe I'm overthinking it, it is just a shed afterall

  • I have a old Paslode nail gun for when I did a load of feather edging, I would def be hiring one, will make your life easier, and will also fire nails with less chance of cracking any wood.

  • Set up a second drill with a pilot bit, drill then screw with a torx setting on the screw driver, no more snaps
    You probably already no this so ignore, I'm a bench joiner and only snap screws when not drilled

  • Hi,
    Its starting to look really good.
    I would have drilled pilot holes to avoid cracking and use torx stainless steel screws. I thought that nails were more likely to snap or bend and screws have more grip strength to keep it tight?

  • And countersink them.

    It makes things take about 10 times longer though.

  • Anyone used a nail gun before? Tempted to hire one for the day but I've never used one before and not sure exactly what I need.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDpvkwBBu6U

  • I havent tried spax

    They're good. Built some decking a few years ago and no probs. Otoh I've never sheared any brand of screws off like you describe.

  • Another vote for pilot hole plus spax! Built a decking at my parents house about 10 years ago and literally all screws are still in place, only took a couple of hours to screw in 400+ of these too

  • I unfortunately miss stepped coming down off a stool on friday and rolled my ankle. Sitting in A&E for 4 hours on friday night with my heavily pregnant wife pushing me around in a wheelchair was all sorts of fun. Torn ligament apparently but doc said keep it moving and it will heal on its own so the show continued, albeit at a much reduced rate. Thankfully my dad came to assist so once I'd hauled myself up onto the roof it's where I stayed.

    Got the main layer of 18mm OSB down, vapour barrier in and insulation done. Had to build a little upstand for the skylight to achieve 150mm clearance from the final roof elevation, just need to screw the frame down to it, but will save that for later as I first need to put down another layer of OSB, 11mm this time to protect the insulation and then it will be ready for roof covering and fascias. After that I can chill a bit more as I won't have to worry about covering it with a tarp every day to protect it from the rain.


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  • It's coming along nicely. Hope your ankle heals quickly.

  • Gonna be cool once it's finished. What color will you paint it? (Sorry if it's been debated already, was lazy to read back.)
    Wish you a fast recovery!

  • Sick fadez obvs

  • Nah gonna plaster it with LOOK branding obv.

    (not going to paint it. Will clad it with western cedar and protect it with Osmo UV oil)


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