• Did some googling... 650 for one of these frames looks to be a decentish price no?
    4130 can jog on though, for kids bikes.

    Still tempted by a Condor. Sick of my Arkose.

  • My point being, don't be put off by the 4130, they ride great, have huge tyre clearance (I can run a 650bx2.25" knobbly - just), run bolt through and flat mounts, look the shiz and are great value. Would have thought the 4130 would have appealed to a BMX kinda guy too?


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  • Agreed, we both have 4130 transition raptures and have never desired more, very happy with the steel etc

  • Now that does look nice... defo got me tempted.
    Nah through BMXing I know just how fat and heavy 4139 is and its hardly exotic.
    That a 50cm?
    I'd prob grab some carbon forks...

  • The Midnight Spesh fork would allow me to run their 8 or 24 pack racks on the Arkose...

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