EU referendum, brexit and the aftermath

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  • Just for my personal clarification, can someone point me in the direction of the data that proves the British will be worse off after Brexit?

  • dumdums
    ignorance
    less thinking
    gullible
    more limited learning

    There's something so sweet and charming about this particular combination of resentment and smugness

    We lost a referendum because we're smarter than everyone else!

  • proves

    This is the point isn't it. It's unknown.

    The last few pages are a great example of the lack of education on both sides of the debate... well I say both sides....

  • I listened to a really interesting piece a while back that assessed the vote through differing personality types; risk adverse worrier types and gun-ho it'll-be-alright optimists.

    It was interesting because it very accurately mirrored my very small sample pool of Brexit voters.

  • It's a pretty fatuous request though isn't it?

    All theories about the future are unproven. Even the fact that gravity will continue to operate tomorrow is an unproven theory.

    In the meantime we have to use our best judgement, experience and predictive faculties.

    Here is what the treasury said the impact would be, as of November last year.

  • This chart shows most current projections from economic bodies and government.

    With the exception of Patrick Minford, who was cleary high, the overwhelming public and private opinion is that it will negatively impact the UK indefinitely.


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  • Economically yes, but what about spiritually?

  • Who's predicting that?

  • You say that as if daily experience proved a majority of people to be smart...

  • What about our perceived proximity to the 'good old days'?

  • data that proves the British will be worse off after Brexit?

    By what measure? What level of proof?

  • data that proves the British will be worse off after Brexit

    I'm pretty sure the burden of proof (whatever that is in this case) should lie with the Brexiteers to 'prove' that their vision is better than the status quo.

  • Will we be able to eat chips out of newspaper again tho?

  • I don't see what my daily experience has to do with the distribution of intelligence across a population of 66 million people

  • proves

    Won't somebody ask Uri Geller?

  • Just for my personal clarification, can someone point me in the direction of the data that proves the British will be better off after Brexit?

  • You believe anecdote equals data?

    You must be one of these smart people I've heard so much about.

  • Proof would require expert opinion, Brexiteers don't like experts.

  • Data is only a collection of anecdotes too. Yes, a majority of people are not particularly clued up about things.

  • Most data is actually classified to explicitly filter out anything that isn't true, or reliable.

  • ... my experiences are both true and 'reliable', not sure what you're getting at here.

  • But you're one of the clued up minority, right?

    Data is only a collection of anecdotes

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  • Anecdotal evidence is generally regarded as limited in value, or as 'evidence' that requires proof.

    I assumed you meant the same with anecdotal data? Anecdotal data would be of limited value (without qual analysis, filtering, classification and validation with other sources, etc)?

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    And yes, I consider myself fairly well-informed.

    @JonoMarshall

    Well yes, data isn't proof. That doesn't mean it's impossible to make probable statements based on it.

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