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• #22127
dumdums
ignorance
less thinking
gullible
more limited learningThere's something so sweet and charming about this particular combination of resentment and smugness
We lost a referendum because we're smarter than everyone else!
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• #22128
proves
This is the point isn't it. It's unknown.
The last few pages are a great example of the lack of education on both sides of the debate... well I say both sides....
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• #22129
I listened to a really interesting piece a while back that assessed the vote through differing personality types; risk adverse worrier types and gun-ho it'll-be-alright optimists.
It was interesting because it very accurately mirrored my very small sample pool of Brexit voters.
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• #22130
It's a pretty fatuous request though isn't it?
All theories about the future are unproven. Even the fact that gravity will continue to operate tomorrow is an unproven theory.
In the meantime we have to use our best judgement, experience and predictive faculties.
Here is what the treasury said the impact would be, as of November last year.
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• #22131
This chart shows most current projections from economic bodies and government.
With the exception of Patrick Minford, who was cleary high, the overwhelming public and private opinion is that it will negatively impact the UK indefinitely.
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• #22132
Economically yes, but what about spiritually?
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• #22133
Who's predicting that?
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• #22134
You say that as if daily experience proved a majority of people to be smart...
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• #22135
What about our perceived proximity to the 'good old days'?
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• #22136
data that proves the British will be worse off after Brexit?
By what measure? What level of proof?
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• #22137
data that proves the British will be worse off after Brexit
I'm pretty sure the burden of proof (whatever that is in this case) should lie with the Brexiteers to 'prove' that their vision is better than the status quo.
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• #22138
Will we be able to eat chips out of newspaper again tho?
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• #22139
I don't see what my daily experience has to do with the distribution of intelligence across a population of 66 million people
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• #22140
proves
Won't somebody ask Uri Geller?
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• #22141
Just for my personal clarification, can someone point me in the direction of the data that proves the British will be better off after Brexit?
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• #22142
I do.
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• #22143
You believe anecdote equals data?
You must be one of these smart people I've heard so much about.
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• #22144
Proof would require expert opinion, Brexiteers don't like experts.
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• #22145
Data is only a collection of anecdotes too. Yes, a majority of people are not particularly clued up about things.
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• #22146
Most data is actually classified to explicitly filter out anything that isn't true, or reliable.
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• #22147
... my experiences are both true and 'reliable', not sure what you're getting at here.
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• #22148
But you're one of the clued up minority, right?
Data is only a collection of anecdotes
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• #22149
Anecdotal evidence is generally regarded as limited in value, or as 'evidence' that requires proof.
I assumed you meant the same with anecdotal data? Anecdotal data would be of limited value (without qual analysis, filtering, classification and validation with other sources, etc)?
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• #22150
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And yes, I consider myself fairly well-informed.
Well yes, data isn't proof. That doesn't mean it's impossible to make probable statements based on it.
Just for my personal clarification, can someone point me in the direction of the data that proves the British will be worse off after Brexit?