Police spotting (junction watch)

Lol

Comments on their twitter feed are pretty spot on. Sometimes the met really need to think a little more before publicising what they've been upto, skimming the feed it honestly reads like "these illegal bikes/scooters/rickshaws > all crime"

Maybe not the best junction to be in the cycle lane/crossing on...

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But not trucks...

:S

That's my daily commute and honestly, it's the norm. Early this week at rush hour, two coaches turned in whilst people were riding towards the lights.

That scheme is misconceived--the position of this modal filter at the main street junction is wrong. As I never cease to repeat ad nauseam, filters should be installed in the centre of a traffic cell, not on the edges, and certainly neither without actually filtering it (filtering every possible through route for motor traffic).

I've seen drivers drive across that space, too, mainly in confusion (the old thing about the 'flying motorcycle' signs, which are exactly the correct signage here, not being recognised by drivers).

The other thing that happens, because the area behind isn't filtered, is that drivers rat-run via Coronet Street and Boot Street. It's annoying because the whole scheme will need to be re-done in the not-too-distant future.

Bit pissed off today. Met police chap after the Union St/Newcomen St crossroads with A3, northbound. Pulls me for going through a red, which I was adamant was green. Reviewed the footage once I got to work and its Green the whole way, not even amber.
Anything I can do about this?! He didn't give me a ticket but I want to re-educate the chap because he's pissed me off.

Strap frozen sausages to your bars and get creative?

I assume that you got a Fixed Penalty Notice rather than a Penalty Charge Notice (issued by councils)?

The advice from the RAC on FPNs is as follows:

Can I appeal a Fixed Penalty Notice?

There is no formal appeal process for fixed penalty notices – if you’re not prepared to admit guilt for the alleged offence, the matter will be decided in court.

However, this will be a costly and time-consuming process, so you should think carefully before appealing.

The fines imposed by a court will be greater than the original fixed penalty notice.

If you decide to challenge a fixed penalty notice, you’re advised to seek assistance from a solicitor or the Citizens Advice Bureau.

It is typical for speeders to try and appeal offences - but the fines can then become much more severe. Find out more in our guide to speeding fines.

https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/advice/legal/fixed-penalty-notices/#appeal-Fixed-Penalty-Notice

Someone more legally knowledgeable than me may know better.

Interesting to note, but as said above he didn't actually ticket me, just threatened to next time (that i go through a green).
In the instance that i had received/been about to get a FPN, i would probably have reviewed my footage there and then to avoid a lengthy process.

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Ah, silly me. I managed to miss that completely. :)

In that case, you may have to go through a police complaint procedure. This comes up first:

https://www.policeconduct.gov.uk/complaints-and-appeals/make-complaint

It seems a bit petty to me, but I wasn't there.

Unlikely to go to the effort to be quite honest with you. Just annoyed as when he was talking to me a couple of cyclists blatantly blew through proper full on reds and he didn't seem interested, obviously because he was talking to me.

apply 24 hour rule.

That is, do nothing for 24 hours and see how you feel about this tomorrow.

Good advice, will action!
Just came here for somewhere to vent!

Yes, I can totally see how annoying that is. Do you think he may have been positioned there to catch scooter riders?

Very potentially, or red light jumpers (seeing as he had pulled me for that). There weren't any scooters that had been confiscated and he seemed to be acting alone, not really interested in ticketing people. So maybe more of an education exercise?

These scooters seem to be a real high priority atm. At Bank Junction two policeman on horses and one of them bellows across the road to the guy at the lights on the electric scooter how they are illegal and if he doesnt get off and walk its 6 points on his license etc.

Meanwhile, there was a white van at the lights waiting to go across the junction (is it a free for all again) and lady cyclist who didnt even slow down whilst RLJ, not a problem apparently

Plod booking RLJers at junction of Essex Road with Upper Street yesterday am...son got slapped with a £50 FPN

That junction is a nightmare, the amount of cyclist that on the central section that turn left in front of all the other cyclists to join Great Eastern Street is of particular frustration. And unless you gun it you cant make it across the whole junction in one swoop.

It's crap, they should install a bridge.

Saw a scooter rider having details taken on New Oxford St this morning by several uniforms just after the Earnshaw Street junction, looked like an RLJ cyclist being done too.

seen 3 electric scooter riders being stopped in 2 days all on embankment.
they didnt stop a guy on an electric scateboard though for some reason. v strange. must be a numbers thing.

what do yall actually think about these scooters. I would say the majority of them are pretty fine (no worse than some cyclists), just nice people trying to get to work like everyone else.

I've never had any issues with them. I think they should be limited to ~30kph and banned from pavements, and it would be fine. Sure there's some pillocks using them, but same goes for bicycles.

Well, I think the UK has got it right with its ban on these in the public realm. I think they're much too fast for the flimsy things they are, and I'm certain the casualty rate for them would always be unacceptably high. It's actually a similar problem to that posed by motorcycle use.

I also think it's not good to invent lots of machines that stop people from basic exertion for their movement. I think it would be good if public policy restricted the use of such machines much more severely than is currently the case, and I include private cars in that, of course.

I think other European countries are wrong to begin to introduce permissive régimes for them.

The best response to an excessive need to travel is to reduce the need to travel, not to continually try to service it with new kinds of machines.

I keep seeing a guy on one of these in SE London; electric skateboard/unicycle hybrid

Don't know how you can legislate when the tech is moving so quick