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So when Milliband was leader, labour was ok, but when Corbyn takes over, it's got a deeply held institutional problem with anti-Semitism?
I can't say either way, I just find it coincidental that this became a stick to beat Corbyn with after several failed putsches from the Blairite wing of the party, a title that serves both them and the opposition very well in making Corbyn appear even more divisive and unelectable. The way the investigation is being conducted is also strange-contacting over a hundred people for response rather than asking people with concerns to approach investigators.
Anyway, apparently the UN is also an anti-Semitic organisation because it tabled motions denouncing Israel's indescriminate killing of Palestinian civilians. If that's the current threshold for being an anti Semite I find that troubling.
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Anyway, apparently the UN is also an anti-Semitic organisation because it tabled motions denouncing Israel's indescriminate killing of Palestinian civilians. If that's the current threshold for being an anti Semite I find that troubling.
The fact that this attack line is still being repeated shows precisely how poor the Labour leadership's response to antisemitism is in terms of educating its base.
Criticising Israeli foreign policy is not, in itself, antisemitic. It never has been. It's a straw man.
Criticising Israeli foreign policy by invoking antisemitic conspiracy theories IS antisemitic. It always has been. And Corbyn types are the ones who tend to tip over into this kind of thing most often.
It's like when Obama was president; it's not racist to say he was a shite president, but it would've been racist to say he was a shite president because his Kenyan ancestry somehow prevented him from being a proud American. One's racist, one isn't. It's quite clear.
And changing the subject to Israel or Zionists when we're talking about the experience of British Jews in Labour is...perhaps not antisemitic, but at the very least it's whataboutery. We're talking about Labour. Let's talk about Labour.
If you want a separate conversation about Israeli foreign policy I will gladly slag it off with you - Netynyahu is a headbanger and I'm 100% in favour of Palestinian rights - but lets not conflate the two.
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From what I hear from a handful of friends who are long-time members of the Labour Party is that the meetings have changed quite radically in content and tone. Many moderates have left. Unless you’re 100% on message - willing to discuss Palestine but not Brexit ..... you’re labelled a ‘Blairite’ and ignored.
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I’d look to what Jewish Labour Party members say it is, I’ve got no experience of it directly.
Adam Wagner is the sort of person I find credible, being a campaigner for human rights, Labour Party member, and Jew: https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/mar/07/labour-antisemitism-investigation