Happy to post the following on different appropriate thread if someone shares which one.
Since the time we were on about rear mechs & cassettes etc., I wanted to figure out the maths of why does a 46/34 front works with an 11/40 rear and also compare with the new GRX.
We know that the Ultegra RD-R8000-GS & RD-RX-800-GS, that is meant for a 34 tooth max rear cassette can handle a 40 with the B screw adjustment. Presumably due to a larger body size than previous generations.
But why does Wolftooth say that with a 46/30 front with an 11/42, it requires an XT rear mech? = mech capacity.
If we look again at the 46/34 front with an 11/40 and do the maths: (46-34) + (40-11) = 41
To go 2 teeth over the capacity of 39 is something like a chain link difference so I can see how the medium cage Ultegra can handle this. With only a 12T difference at the front this makes sense of why this setup works well.
Interestingly the new GRX capacity are not what I expected. They are meant as an either/or option of a 1x, or 2x with their new crank and a max 34T at the rear.
If we look at a 46/30 front with an 11/42 then (46-30) + (42-11) = 47
Et voila long cage XT mech to take up the chain slack from 16T at the front and 31 at the rear.
The GRX RD-RX810 has a rated capacity of 40T. Presumably one more T to take up the slack from the 17T difference in their 48/31 crank offering.
What if we wanted to run that new crank with an 11/40 rear? (48-31) + (40-11) = 46
That is XT territory. Will the GRX RD-RX810 work? Can a 40T capacity be stretched to 46? Or 48 if we wanted to run an 11/42 at the rear?
It depends on the length of that cage on the RX810. Maybe it is longer and more like the long cage XT than the mediums?
After some googling I have not found anything. It would be good to know before spending the time and money on another experiment.
another tech talk,
Happy to post the following on different appropriate thread if someone shares which one.
Since the time we were on about rear mechs & cassettes etc., I wanted to figure out the maths of why does a 46/34 front works with an 11/40 rear and also compare with the new GRX.
We know that the Ultegra RD-R8000-GS & RD-RX-800-GS, that is meant for a 34 tooth max rear cassette can handle a 40 with the B screw adjustment. Presumably due to a larger body size than previous generations.
But why does Wolftooth say that with a 46/30 front with an 11/42, it requires an XT rear mech? = mech capacity.
Medium cage:
Ultegra RD-R8000-GS = 39 Teeth
Ultegra RD-RX-800-GS = 39T
GRX RD-RX812 = 31T
Medium cage? Or is it longer?
GRX RD-RX810 = 40T
Long Cage :
XT RD-M80000-SGS = 47T
If we look again at the 46/34 front with an 11/40 and do the maths: (46-34) + (40-11) = 41
To go 2 teeth over the capacity of 39 is something like a chain link difference so I can see how the medium cage Ultegra can handle this. With only a 12T difference at the front this makes sense of why this setup works well.
Interestingly the new GRX capacity are not what I expected. They are meant as an either/or option of a 1x, or 2x with their new crank and a max 34T at the rear.
If we look at a 46/30 front with an 11/42 then (46-30) + (42-11) = 47
Et voila long cage XT mech to take up the chain slack from 16T at the front and 31 at the rear.
The GRX RD-RX810 has a rated capacity of 40T. Presumably one more T to take up the slack from the 17T difference in their 48/31 crank offering.
What if we wanted to run that new crank with an 11/40 rear? (48-31) + (40-11) = 46
That is XT territory. Will the GRX RD-RX810 work? Can a 40T capacity be stretched to 46? Or 48 if we wanted to run an 11/42 at the rear?
It depends on the length of that cage on the RX810. Maybe it is longer and more like the long cage XT than the mediums?
After some googling I have not found anything. It would be good to know before spending the time and money on another experiment.