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For bikepacking trail runners and wide platform flat pedals are my choice. Maybe it's the exact combo I happen to have (Asics + DMR), but foot position is stable, shoes grip very well to pedals (also to the ground during hike-a-bike which is important!), feet are just comfy and don't cause issues day after day.
If you do lean towards clipless, Giro Rumble are not a good choice I think. The front top panel is thin mesh - next to no protection against water and dust. Also, they don't grip very well when walking on anything even slightly trail like. Have an old pair kicking about in size 9 if you'd like to try for yourself.
Quoc GT are nice. Grip well on rough terrain pushing a heavy bike, reasonably waterproof and fast drying. Giro VR90 look similar, but never tried then. Shimano make some SPD shoes that look like they're good for life off the bike (next to the bike?) I think?
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Clipless shoes. Do I get a more casual option that’s better to wear off the bike too like the giro rumble?
Or more cycling shoe, better for riding, not as good for walking/wearing in the office?