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PhilDAS
Youll need something, either a bought or made fixture, flat mount is really easy to be totally on the piss, especially with the heat needed for brazing. We got some of these stays and mounts to play with, but I'm not a masive fan tbh. It's a standard that was designed without thought for builders still using metal imo, but we are where we are. Integrated into the drop out is happiest for me at least, but obvs then causes issues for crank/heel/chainring clearance.