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  • My hardail requirements :
    Over 650 stack
    Reach in range of 460 to 490
    Sliding dropouts
    Will run tyres from 2.0 to 2.8
    Short chainstays
    Conservative geometry
    120-140 fork compatible
    Carbon
    2x compatibility a bonus
    That comes down to salsa woodsmoke and trek stache. Stache has better reviews and I should be able to run 2x with a bb mounted mech.

    Orbea oiz offers biggest vfm in xc trail category. For just over 3k it comes in full carbon, fox sc 34, carbon cranks, dropper, and life time warranty. I see it as a perfect entry tool for xc marathon riding.

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