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Ta!
@Stodd I reckon I could get laptop, shoes, lunch, and maybe a change of clothes into the City M. Carradice give a capacity of 24l, which is the same as my Super C courier bag, and that would all go in there . It's not too bulky off the bike and on the shoulder strap, though I've not yet used it when it's been rammed full.
Ta - will do! Actually, on that note, how much smaller overall is a Nelson (Longflap) than the Camper? As far as I can tell the numbers on the Carradice website don't include the pockets.