• The Alfine 8 speed is a pretty good option (it’s no rohloff but it’s smooth and reliable - don’t believe the promo stuff - you’re best off pausing pedalling when you change gear). Alfine 11 is poor and nexus 8 are a bit crap. Nexus 7 is pretty good, but you’re better off coughing up for the Alfine 8. Sturmey archer 3 is effective and serviceable, sturmey 5 is shit and sturmey 8 is reliable but agricultural.

    I bought a commuter with a premium nexus and was unimpressed - ended up putting a derailleur on with a dropout adapter.

    Are you sure you want a hub gear? 1x10 and a regular wipe down of the chain is a much better option ime.

  • @TM

    why is alfine 8 better than 11? I am a hub gear n00b. The 8 speed Alfine Di2 feels really good!

  • Then main complaint I've heard about Alfine 11 hubs is their leaking of oil. Alfine 8 is packed with grease rather than oil, so no such worries

  • Alfine 11 is oil bath and has tendency to shit it’s oil out in different temperatures or changes in atmospheric pressure - complete crap.

    8 is greased instead.

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