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Fair point about "upgrading".
Since I started cycling again I've varied between 86-95kg. I'm currently 92kg.
I'm not sure how much lighter these wheels are than the Open Pros I had before, but yeah, they are lighter.
ChasnotRobert-
Have you considered spoke saving training?
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You need sapim force or dt alpine III with the rr411. In fact your better of withal stiffer rim. The rr411 is not a stiff rim and yes the spoke should be replaced really replace the wheel. Even with a thicker spoke a spoke failure is possible depending on how you ride.
Here a hint, I dont build with the rim. When people ask for it I insist on offering something else. In 32h drilling its o.k it with thicker spokes. However then your building something like you would get with the old mavic open pro but more expensive, tighter tyre fitting and not even that run less compatible (tyre can unseat if you flat).
Oliver Schick
cycleclinic
More expensive rarely translates to more reliable, because that's not what most people ask for when "upgrading"