Thanks for the advice, I didn't know the 4700 used an 11 speed pull ratio. As I'm looking to use the shifters with the 105 RD-5700, unfortunately I don't think your 4700s will work. Someone has pm'd me with an offer for a set of ST-6700, am I correct in thinking these will work with the RD-5700?
remember that mine 4700 and his 5700 have different pull ratio