Pre 1950s rides of LFGSS: old bikes, vintage rats, classic lightweights

Anyone take any photos?

Uh, uh, shamefully, I think we all went out with good intentions, but none of us took a single picture. We did do the ride, honest guv!

Not to worry, I'm sure that there will be other rides

I DID take a picture indeed :-p

The Herb Garden

About a half mile from my house. Would love to make the next run :)

Woo-hoo! Cheers @anidel

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Neat! :)

sales thread spam - https://www.lfgss.com/conversations/334821/#comment14767694
Coventry Eagle frame for a tenner if anyone's interested - looks 40's to me

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i know it’s a ‘51, but someone please buy it and turn it into something special.. one of my dream frames and i really don’t want something i can’t use.. :)

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F202696537653

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Very nice, I'd love a fillet brazed CB but they are always too big when I see them up for sale.

Hmm. Advice sought please. Have I fitted the axle in the wrong way around here?
Thought the longer end should be on the drive side, but having offered up the chainset, it seems like I might be wrong. Loathed to take the bb out again, but needs to be correct!

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You're correct in thinking the longer end of the spindle should be on the drive side.
Presumably you're trying to fit that C34 chainset, and I guess your query arises from the excessive clearance you've got between the chainset and the frame.

The spindle you have there looks as though it's the longest possible - I don't know what it was intended for, but I'd guess it's for something like triple rings with a full chaincase (although such a thing surely never existed!). On the other hand your C34 is about as compact as you can get, so it's a bad combination.

In a nutshell, I think you need a shorter spindle to achieve a decent chainline.

Does this help?

http://www.classiclightweights.co.uk/bblengths.html

I've just looked at this article and I think it's worth commenting that I understand 'ngcc' to refer to the clearance on the crank and chainring, rather than the chainline to the rear sprocket(s).

Naturally, the length of the spindle will affect the chainline, but as we now know after decades of derailleur use, this is not quite so critical as our forefathers used to assert. In any case, if you use a long spindle, how are you supposed to get the rear sprocket farther to the right?

Oh good. It is weirdly long. Just measured and it’s like 140mm! Came off a bike with a five spd block but now you mention, it was a double c/s. Should have thought about this before fitting the thing. Right, thank you, off to find something more appropriate.

Ah, will have a read. Thank you also.

Future Old Bike Rides

Last Sunday's ride was a success for the three who completed it, but we could have done with more support. It seems that a few others would have liked to come but couldn't make that particular day. How keen are we to have another similar ride?

How might numbers be increased?

1. A future ride should be in the Rides and Races thread.
   
2. Perhaps we should invite riders with more modern bikes - but they would need to be fairly basic, and this could be defined as fixed or single free. We don't want people turning up with modern superbikes and disturbing our moderate pace.
   
3. Is Staines an inconvenient starting point? I know it's a long way for some people to come. I could suggest somewhere to the North with reasonable roads a stopping points, but I personally have not got the energy to go to the opposite side of London to start, and I'm not keen on going South (Surrey is too crowded with both huge cars and large numbers of bikes - a bad combination).
   
   

Risks and accidents.

We had a clear demonstration on Sunday that accidents happen; we were lucky the outcome wasn't a lot worse. Obviously we're all relieved that no one was hurt, but that could very easily have happened -for example if there had been a passenger in that open topped car. If the police had become involved they would perhaps have noticed certain inadequacies in the damaged machine, which could have led to serious difficulties. I don't believe this accident was caused by an equipment problem, but you can bet it would have been a feature of any enquiry.

The last thing I want to do is to get the forum or its members (especially myself ) into trouble, or for us to start having to worry about 'Risk Assessment'. If, and it's a big if, I have any role in organising future rides I'd like to say now that I don't want to have anyone turning up on a machine that does not comply with basic legal requirements.

A further point is that all of us should have third party insurance. The easiest way to get this is to join British Cycling or The CTC (whatever it calls itself now). Membership also gives you access to legal advice in the event of cycling accidents - remember, you're more likely to be a victim rather than a perpetrator. I have heard of two cases so far this year of injury to non member cyclists, and although neither were seriously hurt they both had potential personal injury claims which I think they are unlikely to pursue.

Let's hear your views on this.

I will solve all this (ha! And likely create another problem) tomorrow with the collection of a second hand BW 120mm bb.

This could be something nice but hard to tell from the poor photos.
Only £25 but collection from Oldbury, Birmingham.
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F153517527587

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Not heard of Minson before and cannot find anything online about the make.

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F202700879561

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I notice this 'Minson' is fitted with Allez pedals, which I mentioned quite a few posts above. They must be the first pair I've seen for about 40 years.

These are going for £1 each plus postage!

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One for you @clubman
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F113259769195

Half hour shake down. Will put the bar tape on now as the bike’s so comfy. Handles really well, nothing fell off. Shifting’s not quite right but main worry is quite a lot of play in the bb. Has cage bearings in, might be better to pack with lose ones?

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Penny Farthing - Needs a bit of work and collection in London.
Seller highlights that it doesn't appear to
be a full size model.
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F223546154822

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Looking great