• Hey - I didn't mean to take over Outliers with a longer ride. My main ride for the week is usually a longer weeknight ride as I don't have track league or long miles planned at the weekend. Classic Hills and quick runs to the White Bear have a lot going for them. Didn't mean to change the vibes / angle, especially at the expense of people not coming out. I'm the splinter ride, not the other way around.

  • Outliers outlier ride! I'm quite happy to be the splitter- the long ride looks like it will be popular

  • You are a total bastard, I hate you and you will never be forgiven.

    Both the hating and the 'do what you like' things are mostly the reasons for Outliers

    Edit - Phil not coming is always a bonus, especially on hills :)

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