In The Beginning: Genesis Owners

fair enough.
mine is the same model as @Technics100 bright yellow one so must be a 2015.
according to Strava I rode it for around 8k miles.
i used mine pretty exclusively as my main road bike for several years as a commuter (road/canal path mix), on club rides, on a 3 day bike packing tour around Galloway forest park last year.
it's a fast bike when it needs to be, but also comfortable with wider tyres fitted, and was capable on gravel/dirt trails through the woods occasionally. the ride is noticeably less harsh than my alu framed road bikes, maybe not quite as direct.
it's never going to be a super light bike, but mine was under 10kg and could have lost a fair chunk of weight off the wheelset to make it feel more sprightly.
my main reason for swapping out the frame was for increased tyre clearance.

From the sounds of it, will ride very similar to my CDF. Considering replacing my 853 Donohue with something that’ll clear tyres bigger than 23, finding a frame builder to modify the Donohue being another option (just needs a wee dent in the seat tube). Doesn’t sound like 725 equilibrium is the one. Thanks for the feedback.

for what it's worth, an equilibrium behaves waaay more like a road bike than a cdf, but compared with what you want to replace, it won't be as snappy.

https://geometrygeeks.bike/compare/genesis-croix-de-fer-2017-l,genesis-equilibrium-disc-2017-l/

equilibrium and croix de fer have quite different geo
i've owned both, although i didn't keep the croix for long as it was too small.

You could try to find an 853 equilibrium?

It was seeing Jambons eq 853 for sale that started this train of thought, if they’re fetching around £400 tho and then I have to source a carbon fork, it starts shaping up into an expensive experiment.

Get a Volare? Much closer to your Donohue.

Clearance for 32 though?

Just bought ex-display 931 Equilibrium disc for fast audaxey style ride... Then realised fork is post mount, rear is flat mount. Who does this?!

Much excite tho.

You do know post mount is what flat mount is trying to achieve right? All the chatter of not requiring an adaptor but hey the front flat mount still needs one! #trufax

Nooo, don't sell your Donohue! I vouch for some crimping.

23mm is pretty tight though, where is it tight? Do you think you'd be able to eke out up to a 32mm? I can fit 25mm tyres on mine, & that feels comfortable enough if you get some nice ones with supple tyre walls.

Contacted woodrup (admittedly via Instagram) but had no reply.

In 2 minds of having a go myself or persisting with woodrup or BJ.

Crimping an 853 frame that fits 23 to get to 32? Surely not?

Woodrup are quite responsive on Facebook I've found.

Wouldn't risk it myself, at least see if it's feasible with a proper frame builder first.

It’s definitely doable, just need the correct kit.

drilling 853 for di2 ok if crimping is doable? Winston wont do it :(

Winston has a good quote about instafamous framebuilders, he says you never hear/see any failure stories. I also think Winston plays it too safe BUT he has a point.

Use a reinforcement?

never question winston

Yeah I get that but it's the mixing of both standards on the same frame that is a bit confused... Also, I don't think flat mount calipers can be adapted to post (or is it IS...) which means sourcing two different calipers (well, definitely if you don't want an adapter...)

the one off Ebay?

yep

Nice, Post a pic when it's built!

fuck me.

to add to previous disc brake moan, apparently I now need a fucking adapter for my flat mount caliper to accept the standard 160 rotor that the front post mount caliper doesn't need. Thus taking the supposedly simpler, more elegant system that doesn't need the hassle of an adapter, and forcing you to use one anyway unless you want to buy a smaller, less effective rotor.

Seriously tempted to just get long drop rim brake calipers...

but that's definitly normal, equilibriums take post mount front, and flat mount rear.
an imbalanced 160=140 equilibrium.
that said, the rear adapter the switches from 140 to 160 is just a wedge, and unlikely to cause alignement issues.