• @norton thanks so much for your help. Just trying to get my head around this.

    With an ideal stack, theoretically of 560mm and reach of 370mm.

    The Vitus: 570mm stack, 407mm reach + 80mm stem
    The Pinnacle: 589.5mm stack, 387mm reach + 80mm stem

    Does this mean theoretically the Pinaccle is 20mm shorter than the Vitus, and if we assume the ideal 370mm reach is with a 100mm stem, averages out to be about correct?

    So assuming I should write the Vitus off for being incompatible, and trying to avoid the arkose for now (I wanted to get 1x on the front for simplicity). Does anyone have any other ideas? I really wanted to keep it under 1000 for the cycle to work scheme

  • Get the Vitus. I have it, it's a great bike, cheaper and lighter than anything comparable.
    Yeah it's low (but it's listed as a cyclocross bike) but you can always add spacers or flip the stem. For me the low stack was the main selling point

  • Sonder Camino AL

  • The Vitus is more traditional/cyclocross despite having a short stem.

    The Pinnacle is more adventure/endurance style (as in more upright and shorter).

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