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See that is complete sentence I can engage with.
EDIT the EU council (not commission) is not unelected, it contains heads of state that are elected. It is not -directly- elected like the EU parliament, that is correct.
The ECB has too much power, and abused it, the EU parliament voted to end debt repayments in 30 years, whatever happened.
"rolled over a democratically elected socialist government"? People voted to stay in the Eurozone.
So yes, there are definitely some problems that needs addressed and I don't trust the EU, or the UK government, or any large institution a 100%.
There is also a lot of good like the EU developing regions funds, the Good Friday agreement, freedom of movement (a good thing), Erasmus, Euratom, EU citizen initiatives, EU peace fund, being able to stand up to other trade blocks
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The EU Commission is not elected, because it comprises civil servants, although the heads of the different departments are chosen by the Parliament. This in itself isn't hugely problematic, as most UK law is drafted by civil servants too, and EU laws need approval from the EP.
The Council of the EU comprises the relevant ministers, who are elected, and the EU Council (who chose these names!?) is made up of the heads of state.
The trouble is, the process of passing EU legislation is so unwieldy and long-winded that there are numerous shortcuts which are not particularly transparent or democratic.
I think the main democratic deficit in the EU is that people just don't really care or find it interesting. This means that proper scrutiny isn't really done, because no one really reports on or cares about the majority of what happens.
Then when the "unelected, bureaucratic" lines are used, people will readily believe them, because they don't care enough to know any better. It's hard to disagree, because even people who are ardent supporters of the EU dob t actually know what all its institutions are or do.
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You’re confusing the council and the commission. The council is the elected heads of state (like I say, concentrated executive power). The commission is unelected. Both bodies are massively more powerful than the parliament, which is the only directly elected entity. This imbalance has been apparent to everyone for decades, but the EU hasn’t seen fit to reform.
tbc
Eejit
You can’t parse Eurocrats?
People have legit concerns about the democratic deficit in the EU. The Commission is enormously powerful, but unelected. The Council is a concentrate of European executive power. Between them, the EU Commission and the ECB - with a little help from the IMF - ravaged the Greek economy, and rolled over a democratically elected socialist government whilst it was at it. What was their mandate to do so? Is it any wonder these institutions are regarded with suspicion?
Remainers would do better to engage with these arguments rather than to dismiss them out of hand.