• "Eurocrats" "Progress"... what progress? Who are these Eurocrats?

    It's as vague and polemic as Farage and his "traitors" narrative.

  • You can’t parse Eurocrats?

    People have legit concerns about the democratic deficit in the EU. The Commission is enormously powerful, but unelected. The Council is a concentrate of European executive power. Between them, the EU Commission and the ECB - with a little help from the IMF - ravaged the Greek economy, and rolled over a democratically elected socialist government whilst it was at it. What was their mandate to do so? Is it any wonder these institutions are regarded with suspicion?

    Remainers would do better to engage with these arguments rather than to dismiss them out of hand.

  • Remainers would do better to engage with these arguments

    You can't engage with them at the minute (or at least, it's a waste of effort to do so), because there's a more urgent European elephant in the room that needs dealing with first.

  • See that is complete sentence I can engage with.

    EDIT the EU council (not commission) is not unelected, it contains heads of state that are elected. It is not -directly- elected like the EU parliament, that is correct.

    The ECB has too much power, and abused it, the EU parliament voted to end debt repayments in 30 years, whatever happened.

    "rolled over a democratically elected socialist government"? People voted to stay in the Eurozone.

    So yes, there are definitely some problems that needs addressed and I don't trust the EU, or the UK government, or any large institution a 100%.

    There is also a lot of good like the EU developing regions funds, the Good Friday agreement, freedom of movement (a good thing), Erasmus, Euratom, EU citizen initiatives, EU peace fund, being able to stand up to other trade blocks

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