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  • I think chiropractor is the more voodoo of the two. Osteopathy is recommended on the NHS with supporting evidence: https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/osteopathy­/evidence/

  • I could barely walk for the first two weeks, so I was all over the RICE. I'm afraid I don't know much more on tendons, myself. RICE up but keep things mobile (without load). Wait until the pain goes and then half that time again before starting to work the tendon, gently, building up over time in nice small increments.

    I'd be off to see Nicola at Velophysio if I were in the same boat.

  • What do their treatments involve?

    A range of things, tbh a lot of it overlaps with what physios do. Some massage and stretching, occasionally acupuncture, etc.
    Alex is good as he is looking at bigger picture rather than just the bit that is hurting. He's working on something I tried to get Nichola to fix but didn't succeed.
    I wouldn't necessarily say go to osteopath for a tendon issue though. Prob agree with Darren, go to a good physio.

  • Cheers guys. The swelling has come down noticeably (I guess not lugging bikes on and off trains helps) such that I can see veins in my wrist and hand again now. The tendon is still graunchy but less so. I'm just smashing good food for now and will add some B12 supps in for my nerve damage and I'm off the sauce for a bit. I might schedule a massage at some point. Left knee is still not liking being closed up - it's quite puffy.

  • I also get left, I always thought it was because of the tendency to do things like drink water with the right hand means your adding extra pressure on the left and never resting it?

  • I drink with my left hand.
    I wondered if the effort of lifting the bottle and squeezing it put extra pressure on my left hand!

  • I dont drink water from bottles...

  • Good thoughts tho. I'll be more conscious of this.

  • +1 for Nichola at Velophysio. If you considero osteopathy, Alice Monger Godfrey is great, ex-pro cyclist, is/was osteo to Team Dimension Data. She's got a clinic somewhere in Central London and one in Clapham junction. https://www.amg-osteo.com/

  • http://racethroughpoland.pl/en/ starts tomorrow. Don't know if there's live tracking on this one or not.

  • Oh no - when will I get any work done!
    Do we know anyone in it?

  • Mostly locals but Lenhard, Björn is in there.

  • I thought he waant racing before tcr. He can't help himself. Just loves to race!

  • At least this one is a bit further out from TCR.

  • not sure if right place but - any ideas about most calory dense food to carry?

    doing a ride where there will be multiple 100km+ stretches of gravel roads without any chance to resupply and aside from gels or whatever, what can I carry for emergencies that won't take up too much room/weight?

  • Nuts.
    Lard.

    100km isnt that far, even off road.

    I like biscotti a lot.

    Saying thay, in al seriousness I've been solving the same problem recently. My current idea is veloforte bars, at 400cal/100g they're serious. Butter etc. are around 750cal/100g.

    Other bars are around similar numbers. A few a bit more. But I liked that it was made of natural ingredients.

    You could make your own that would be a bit more. Cheaper too.

  • Marzipan is very energy dense. Chocolate scores high too. Malt loaf is about 1000 cals per bar

  • But do you want to spend half of the 100km shitting yourself becasue your guts can't handle eating pure rubbish.

  • Marzipan is only 420cal/100g
    Soreen is 310cal/100g
    Dark chocolate is 550/100g

    I'm not sure I could eat 1kg of dark chocolate a day. Without big issues. Maybe a few hundred grams max

  • yeah its not crazy distances - day 1 between stranraer and new cumnock has around 150km mostly offroad with absolutely nothing inbetween, then further north there are some 130km stretches with not much around. This is more in case we get somewhere late after everything has shut or something like that.

    Will definitely have a trail mix stash. Veloforte bars sound nice, I'll look into those - which ones did you find that were even more calorie dense?

    At the end of the day i'm not racing so if I have to detour to a town then I can do that - but would rather avoid it if possible.

  • I'd just take some pasta in a packet and a stove. Nothing like hot food. And some parmigano. And a few bars of dark chocolate. Suplimented with some engery bars.

    IF you're not racing why not.

    Honestly just take whatever, you'll be fine. And eat huge meals when you can.

  • My rule of thumb is at least 4:1 kcal:g ratio
    so look for anything with more than 400kcal per 100g

    this evening I was looking at honey roasted peanuts and cashew nuts in coop - 595kcal/100g!

  • you need moderation and balance though. you can't just eat nuts. Not for a week on end say.

  • oh absolutely! I eat loads of stuff when I'm on a long trip
    just a good rule of thumb for road snacks

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