Gravel / Gravé / Gnarmac / Groad / ATB

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amey in reply to @Tijmen

When someone mentioned Brother, the long TT bets are off, I'll post whatever I want as long as no1 buys a Brother.

The 2nd frameset is short and high.

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Tijmen in reply to @amey
Ah, I felt very attacked because I've been toying with the idea of a bike with the same handlebar stack and reach as my current bike but with a 100mm stem. And it's putting me in serious T-rex territory.

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amey in reply to @Tijmen

this is a no judgement zone .. unless you buy a Brother

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