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frankenbike in reply to @Fyoosh

“I don’t mind being part of a team, but there’s something in me that wants to be the captain of the team,” Martin said. “When you’re writing short stories and novels, yes you may have editors and all that, but essentially the writer is king. The writer decides how everything is going to be; people can give suggestions, and you can say yes or no to them. Now, when you get involved in television and film, um… you’re working with a large team.”

“It’s hard enough to come up with a good story and good characters and things like that, but in television and film not only does the writer have to come up with that, but then he has to fight for it politically,” Martin said. “In some cases there’s butting heads and clashing egos and there’s debates.”

“It can also be traumatic because sometimes their creative vision and your creative vision don’t match, and you get the famous creative differences thing — that leads to a lot of conflict,” Martin said of his relationship with developing his books into TV shows.

“You get totally extraneous things like the studio or the network weighing in, and they have some particular thing that has nothing to do with story, but relates to, ‘Well this character has a very high Q Rating so let’s give him a lot more stuff to do even though he’s a rather unimportant character,'” Martin explained.

I think there's an element of network fuckery going on in the decision making. The show is so popular that it doesn't really matter if they piss off swathes of hardcore fans as long as the majority are happy. It seems incredibly short sighted though, do you want to create something with an enduring legacy like the Wire or Breaking Bad, or do you want to make another Lost?

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duncs in reply to @frankenbike

I think there's an element of network fuckery going on in the decision making. The show is so popular that it doesn't really matter if they piss off swathes of hardcore fans as long as the majority are happy. It seems incredibly short sighted though, do you want to create something with an enduring legacy like the Wire or Breaking Bad, or do you want to make another Lost?

I don't get why they're wrapping it up at 7 seasons though. It was so popular they could have carried on for a while. Unless the actors were getting fed up and planning on quitting then they could have spent a few more years doing the story properly rather than madly rushing everyone into place in season 6, then binning the undead storyline in one episode, most the support armies and a dragon in 5mins in the next, Daenerys from strong but a bit rash to Mad Queen in a couple of conversations and Brienne from Hound level badassery to blubbering girlfriend after a bunk up

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frankenbike in reply to @duncs

Yeah, like I said, seems to be incredibly short-term thinking, just wrap it up in a 2 star season. D&D are doing 3 Star Wars films so maybe that is a factor.

By the way regarding those Star Wars films, I don't think I'll be watching

Ser Davos Seaworth actor Liam Cunningham gave a bit more away, all while having a dig at Disney's Star Wars films. He said: "It's funny because George [Lucas] came here and talked to the boys, and the one thing the Star Wars franchise has been missing lately is decent storytelling.

"There's a lot of brilliant stuff in Star Wars, it's an epic franchise, but occasionally, story-wise, it's left a little to be desired.

"Dan and David are brilliant at surprises and can transfer the demographic from this show to that. They're incredible at adapting a world and making it their own and they could add a layer of complexity to it.
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Chalfie in reply to @duncs

Jaime's cock is magic. You'd need to be Cersei level boss to not react badly to it.
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Fyoosh in reply to @duncs

Exactly this.

And also this:

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