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I think the way the alliance dissolved so quickly after the undead were defeated was fairly interesting, but right now it's all about remembering who did what and when how that might help in understanding what's going on.
Also: cosmic bran >>>>>>>

I think D&D couldn't write their way out of a wet paper bag. They are morons. The justification for the dragon bit was that "Dany kind of forgot about the Iron Fleet". One of them wrote X-Men Origins, we should have known.

Poor GRRM.

Nevermind the coffee cup, when did king's landing turn into a desert?

Though I'm not enjoying the season as much as previous ones, it's excellent meme fodder

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I do not understand why the writers spend half the episode as basically a joke fest - like some sort of Game of Thrones blooper reel, where each character is a caricature of themselves. And then! They rush through these HUGE plot lines. Eg - Varys and Tyrion sitting in the throne room. How many seasons of Daenerys proving her worth as queen, through countless challenging situations did we just watch? And in a five min chat, after barely saying a line all season, Varys has changed his mind.

I don’t think I’ve ever been so disappointed with a TV series. The mad queen narrative has come out of nowhere and stripped Daenerys of all her intelligence and Bran seems to have been replaced by an almost mute cyborg. It feels like writing by checkbox. My favourite part of GOT has always been the considered pace and time they spent on developing multi faceted characters. Season 7 wasn’t great but this one dimensional shitshow is something else.

Also, if you had the only two dragons left in existence and had already lost one through being careless and also happen to be travelling toward your enemy, with your now tiny army - wouldn’t you be a little fucking careful?! It stinks of D&D rushing through those checkboxes in an attempt to level the playing field for a final battle.

And breathe.

The memes really are better than the show now.

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Varys changing his mind is kind of acceptable, I think. Jon has a stronger claim, would be an easier sell, and crucially doesn't burn people he doesn't like.
However, he's part of the game innit.

He should just stay on the bus.

It's just really rushed and a bit huge now and everyone is into it.

“I don’t mind being part of a team, but there’s something in me that wants to be the captain of the team,” Martin said. “When you’re writing short stories and novels, yes you may have editors and all that, but essentially the writer is king. The writer decides how everything is going to be; people can give suggestions, and you can say yes or no to them. Now, when you get involved in television and film, um… you’re working with a large team.”

“It’s hard enough to come up with a good story and good characters and things like that, but in television and film not only does the writer have to come up with that, but then he has to fight for it politically,” Martin said. “In some cases there’s butting heads and clashing egos and there’s debates.”

“It can also be traumatic because sometimes their creative vision and your creative vision don’t match, and you get the famous creative differences thing — that leads to a lot of conflict,” Martin said of his relationship with developing his books into TV shows.

“You get totally extraneous things like the studio or the network weighing in, and they have some particular thing that has nothing to do with story, but relates to, ‘Well this character has a very high Q Rating so let’s give him a lot more stuff to do even though he’s a rather unimportant character,'” Martin explained.

I think there's an element of network fuckery going on in the decision making. The show is so popular that it doesn't really matter if they piss off swathes of hardcore fans as long as the majority are happy. It seems incredibly short sighted though, do you want to create something with an enduring legacy like the Wire or Breaking Bad, or do you want to make another Lost?

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When the budget is that big....

Not to mention the biggest fleet on the sea being hidden behind like 1 rock, also being about to shoot around that rock.

also being about to shoot around that rock.

And able to shoot magic arrows that never lose momentum, and are also exploding.

And why pick up just the one prisoner? Why not just do away with everyone in the water?

Yeah I think there's a reason they left that part off the screen.

I think there's an element of network fuckery going on in the decision making. The show is so popular that it doesn't really matter if they piss off swathes of hardcore fans as long as the majority are happy. It seems incredibly short sighted though, do you want to create something with an enduring legacy like the Wire or Breaking Bad, or do you want to make another Lost?

I don't get why they're wrapping it up at 7 seasons though. It was so popular they could have carried on for a while. Unless the actors were getting fed up and planning on quitting then they could have spent a few more years doing the story properly rather than madly rushing everyone into place in season 6, then binning the undead storyline in one episode, most the support armies and a dragon in 5mins in the next, Daenerys from strong but a bit rash to Mad Queen in a couple of conversations and Brienne from Hound level badassery to blubbering girlfriend after a bunk up

Yeah, like I said, seems to be incredibly short-term thinking, just wrap it up in a 2 star season. D&D are doing 3 Star Wars films so maybe that is a factor.

By the way regarding those Star Wars films, I don't think I'll be watching

Ser Davos Seaworth actor Liam Cunningham gave a bit more away, all while having a dig at Disney's Star Wars films. He said: "It's funny because George [Lucas] came here and talked to the boys, and the one thing the Star Wars franchise has been missing lately is decent storytelling.

"There's a lot of brilliant stuff in Star Wars, it's an epic franchise, but occasionally, story-wise, it's left a little to be desired.

"Dan and David are brilliant at surprises and can transfer the demographic from this show to that. They're incredible at adapting a world and making it their own and they could add a layer of complexity to it.

Jaime's cock is magic. You'd need to be Cersei level boss to not react badly to it.

Exactly this.

And also this:

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I can't wait for the melt down if Cersei wins.

Here you go you animals. Watch all of it, it's a good 'un.

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I kneel to thee digital master

This is damn well perfect.

Better than season 8 actually :’(

GoT: A sub-Twilight fanfic would give a more satisfactory ending than this.

Tormund awoke, head heavy with fermented goat's milk, a gentle breeze parting his great red beard.

He winced.

The last thing he remembered was Brienne and Jaime leaving hand in hand into the shadows from Winterfell's Great Hall. And then a flagon being thrust in his great hand. And then another...

Wait.

There was more.

The shared acknowledging nods with similarly lovelorn newly-legitimised expert swordsmith Gendry, the fire dancing in his eyes as he shared a rueful grin over another flagon.

The invitation to pull his chair closer...

Where was that breeze coming from?

And what was that smell?