Gravel / Gravé / Gnarmac / Groad / ATB

My guess would be no hollow crank, only shaped.

Makes sense to eat a chunk of the OEM market. Right now Apex 1 is going in a lot of bikes and the only answer they have is Tiagra with 50/34 and 34 rear.
Unless you mostly do road I'd rather have a smaller top gear, I can still manage 25mph in a 42t chainring.

The 2x chainrings are pretty ugly.

Dem levers tho...

Elephant in the room

Tons of people use crosstops on budget road bikes. They aren't allowed hydro?

apparently the ultegra level one is hollow

I find them so horrible.

Handling = sketchy, no stablity, know someone who used them for off road and after a few rides changing to being on the drops was so much faster smashing about!

Right lever isn't straight. Outraged

PS cross tops are great for touring. Stretch your back out, move your hands around, etc.

How would you bleed a system like that?

I find them so horrible.

Yeah for sure, so does probably everyone else on here but you still see them on loads of carreras and other cheap road bikes so why exclude those people from having good brakes?

I'd hazard a guess at no differently from normal.

Appears to be hoseless braking? Or the poor lever set up?

Not seen these Thesis bikes before.

uh .. thats carbonda

Ha, then maybe I have.

Ok, new frame time... second hand Genesis 753 or whatever or splash out on something new? I think I may prefer steel as Alu feels fat. Budget 1K. Life coach @amey, go....

Fat as in heavy? Standard steel genesi are heavy

Nah, as in diameter... can't explain any further without a massive double entendre.

You mean big tubes .

£1k for a frame?

You can pick loads for that. I spent £500 rrp on my transition and I wouldn’t change it, or spend more tbh. I had two more cage mounts added and I’m happy as Larry, 4130 chromo ftw.

How much of a hurry are you in to buy one?

Rodeo flaanimal ticks a lot of boxes for me.

Not massive. Yours will be too big for me though!
The new condor looks nice, although alu, and with stolen branding.

I was thinking more that I have a brazing torch and a load of brass...