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  • You shouldn't quote selectively when it generates a misleading impression. I said: 'Flying is the problem.' I'm obviously well aware of all these emissions/'carbon footprint' calculations. For the most part, they lead people into fallacies, as they are way too simplistic (and that, incidentally, is also a reason why they are resisted by a lot of people--who often can't put their finger on why, but one of the reasons is simply the large number of fallacious arguments that occur in the public sphere).

    Far more people fly economy/standard class than people who fly first class. The planes are in the air mainly because of economy flyers. Overall, there's no great difference in their contribution to the problem, never mind how much responsibility you can assign to each flyer. As I said, don't single out individuals for particular criticism here. You can sometimes do that productively, but here the problem is, purely and simply, with flying itself.

  • Yes, we need population level change.

    By your logic a private jet would be fine because ‘it’s flying it’s self that is the problem’.

    It’s not without consequence.

  • By your logic a private jet would be fine because ‘it’s flying it’s self that is the problem’.

    Well, since that doesn't follow at all from what I said there's no need to comment on it beyond that.

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