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I think I just want something unrealistic.
Something as exciting and fun as my Kawasaki which is 100 odd bhp, in-line 4, 12,500 rpm and scares the shit out of me on A roads.
And yet has a comfortable pillion seat, option for panniers and maybe front screen.
The usual tourer/dual sports fit the bill except for the naked sportsbike, low and planted cornering feel.
I’m not sold on the BMW. The engine doesn’t sound exciting but otherwise it ticks a lot of boxes
PhilDAS-
The modern BMW engines are very efficient but not that exciting. The power they can generate is quite exciting.
Pillion seats are never comfortable enough for a pillion once they start to notice until you get to the Harley ultra glide and then you'll have trouble ever getting them on another bike. (this must be in a rule of motorbikes somewhere which we all should have read before spoiling our pillions with the Harley!)
After that point you have 2 options, ditch the idea of taking them along on the bike or be prepared to constantly discuss more comfortable pillion seats with the idea that one can be found but knowing in your heart it's a unicorn. This is just buying time until they eventually decide that it's not fun to go on the bike any more and you can go back to single seat sports bikes without a peep about how selfish you are.
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hayabusa and panniers?
Airhead
hugo7
Fair enough.
Are there any japanese bikes that fit the bill? BMW are always pretty stingy with spec but still command high 2nd hand prices...