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  • You should feel guilty about flying to see your parents to shave a couple of days of travel off your holiday. You should feel guilty about eating lamb just because you feel like it. Your friend should feel guilty for producing more emissions than 50 people with normal jobs (is he so important?). It's most likely people in poor nations in decades to come who will bear the cost of your decisions and they don't have a say in what you choose to do. You are picking the "selfish enjoyment" option and expecting someone worse off to pay the price. How could you not feel guilty about that?

    (Not that there's anything wrong with doing something for selfish enjoyment. Simply staying alive is selfish enjoyment at the world's expense unless you are somehow directly responsible for reducing the severity of climate change by more than you increase it.

    But it has to be in moderation. Like eating 4 Easter eggs in a day, you feel a bit guilty, but recognise it's a rare occasion and is not sustainable to go on the same way all the time.)

    Christ I am an insufferable bore.

  • Yes you are. Grandparents wanting to fly over to see grandchildren. FFS nothing wrong with that. Some people not privileged to live nearby their ageing parents. Or able to afford to double the time off to drive/train somewhere thousands of miles away.

    Maybe get a job you bum, and stop moaning on the internet.

    I don’t like flying that much but it is a necessity on many occasions, especially for the odd long weekend city-break in New York.

  • I don’t like flying that much but it is a necessity on many occasions, especially for the odd long weekend city-break in New York.

    Um. What?

    Your post was a kinda shitty personal attack before the edit, but that just takes the biscuit

  • Moving to Italy away from your family is a choice, and anyone who actually cares about climate change should think about the cost to the environment when making that sort of decision. And the privilege angle is a joke when we're talking about Westerners retiring to Italy and flying back and forth.

    Gee, just get a job! Why didn't I think of that?

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