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Or rather, an idiot management structure that didn't provide the resources for fire wardens that would walk trough the site at regular hours removing flammable debris, carrying redundant gas canisters off the premises, checking that electrical equipment not currently in use was shut off, controlling that extension cords weren't overloaded etc.

Sound similar to the Mackintosh Building.

Of course we feel more affected by something we have proximity and experience with. But we also have the capability for unpacking our thoughts

I think you are right to wish we would all have more empathy for those living through real disasters, e.g Mosul. I think it's wrong to suggest we shouldn't express grief / shock at disasters on our doorstep, as if that somehow makes us callous.

If someone dies in my street, of course I'll care more about that than a hundred people dying the other side of the world. It doesn't mean I have a blinkered world view.

My issue isn’t with people expressing shock, my issue is with the sheer amount of shock and grief, in both the media and social media, which I think is a great example of western hypocrisy. We’re talking about the roof of one building.

And I disagree. You state that comparison as if it’s an obvious fact. I think we’re capable of far more complex empathy, than simply feeling the most emotion because something is close by.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/apr/16/mastercard-court-ruling-paves-way-14bn-class-action

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I wonder if Amazon and Google going to join fashion brands with tax write offs aka raising funds to save the church?

http://www.thefashionlaw.com/home/in-the-wake-of-the-notre-dame-fire-lvmh-and-kering-emerge-with-rival-donations

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Don't count your bearings til it's been to the Supreme Court...

Plenary indulgences.

Billionaires are trash, film at eleven.

Is this the modern way to buy absolution?

At the risk of exposing myself as a cuck/libtard/snowflake/virtue-signaller, I agree.

Justin Webb and John Humphrys seem to think this is a reasonable position too - it is one they used in their questioning of John Sentamu on Today this morning.

It's obviously a huge thing, a building many of us are familiar with, etc. But it's also quite unbelievable that three days later it's still the top news story in lots of media outlets. Maybe it's actually something to be thankful for, if this is the worst thing that has happened in Western Europe in the last three days.

But I think what @William. suggests about it being obvious you'll care more about people closer to/more like you is part of the problem - this is what feeds into the idea that bad things are normal in other places, and helps to perpetuate negative stereotypes of whole continents or races.

Extinction Rebellion have glued themselves to a DLR train roof.

Why public transport?

yeah - weird flex.

because canary wharf?

I think it's just that public transport disruption gains attention rather than something against public transport per se.

See XR thread: https://www.lfgss.com/conversations/332429

These are often autonomous groups planning their own Non Violent Direct Action. Twin goals of raising awareness of the issue of climate change and mass arrests of protestors to force government into some kind of action.

A copper with a ladder's turned up.

Is that legit? Yes, please...

I had a Mastercard for a while..

The copper's putting surgical gloves on. He's got loads of abseiling gear, it must be a crack climbing BTP squad.

Adam Boulton is furious:

“you’re just a, you know, a load of incompetent, middle class, self
indulgent people who want to tell us how to live our lives.......”

https://twitter.com/JerryHicksUnite/status/1118476739007610880

i can never tell the difference between this fool and that nick ferrari shitspout. are they related?

that legit? Yes, please...

I had a Mastercard for a while

You don't even need to have been a MasterCard customer. The case is that MasterCard's illegal transaction fees made the price of products go up for all consumers, no matter how they paid.

It is the first ever example of a UK "opt out" group claim on behalf of affected adult consumers during the period in question. So, if it is upheld at the Supreme Court, and you are in the affected cohort, you are eligible for a pay out.

Tori is counsel for the claimant.

That drunk driver bloke Guido has found photos of the Extinction Rebellion lad skiing so have declared him a massive hypocrite.

Hallelujah! Nice one, Tori... ❤️

Couldn’t agree more.

Judging how we feel only by proximity is the isolationism of our empathy. It’s exactly that ‘Us and Them’ mentality that’s so apparent after events like the burning of Notre Dame.