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Makes sense, I jammed my saddle forward a while back to compensate for too much reach and that caused a lot of other issues.
When it come to bike fit; saddle to bb distance is the first thing to sort out, then everything fall in place (get correct stem length, handlebar, pedal position etc.).
As you found, moving saddle make issues worse than shorten the stem to reduce the reach.
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Makes sense, I jammed my saddle forward a while back to compensate for too much reach and that caused a lot of other issues. My mountainbike has been very comfortable from the get-go, so I'll have a good look at the saddle position on there to get some cues for my other bikes.
(I've decided to not buy a new frame / bike before having done a bike fit, but realistically that's still a year out as my student budget doesn't allow for it.)