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  • Thanks.
    Either would be an entire swap from Ultegra Hydro.
    New force stuff currently seems same price as old red...?

  • oh sorry I'm not up to date on the new force pricing had assumed it would have been same ballpark as new red.
    But now see its £1650 on wiggle right now without cranks and cassette etc. Might be cheaper than that on the usual german retailers.

    I paid £1075 for Red Etap hydro disc groupset from bike24 about 6 weeks ago.
    I Reckon if you've still got 11 speed bits to use then stick with it. You'll obvs need 12 speed cassette and crankset/chainrings on top of the £1650 for etap force so it soon mounts up.

    I'd guess old red etap weighs less than new force etap. But I do like the stealthy look of the new force group.

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